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#281271 - 09/07/08 10:54 AM Do You Have a Challenge? [Re: Dax]
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Hello,

As all you know, I am new to this forum. I'm learning alot everyday in the fields of politics & economics. I'm always looking to expand my imagination and creativity through learning. I'm always looking for a challenge. So heres my question to you....

Do you have a challenge to offer?

Please let it be within the scope of economics or politics. TY




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#281277 - 09/07/08 11:24 AM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: JOE]
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I am going to take McCain by three percent with a turn out rate of 47% of all eligible voters.
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#281286 - 09/07/08 12:33 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Dax]
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Originally by: Dax
The latest Zogby poll (Sept 1) has Obama leading by about five points. This is right after the Dem. convention. After the Republican convention, the number will probably even out.

If it doesn't, and McCain doesn't get a boost from the convention, then the Dems will appear to be taking the lead.

But I think that post-convention polls always show a bump for the candidate whose party was most recently seen on tv.


The convention helped McCain gain back some of his losses, with no significant bump in the polls.

According the most recent Gallup poll Obama is leading by 4 points 48 to 44...
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#281287 - 09/07/08 12:40 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Chocolategenii]
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I really think it's too close to call, and many dirty tricks to come between now and election day.

I was watchng Fox News when the host raised the question of Obama's years at Columbia U. in New York City, and why they were glossed over.

He didn't say anything untoward happened, what he did, in true neocon fashion, was lean into the camera and say "Why did he gloss this over?"

My guess is, if they dig into his Columbia U. records, they'll find he probably took a social studies course from some lefty, or wrote an essay on "social equality" which is all Fox News needs to pain him as a Communist-Terrorist-Muslim.

Obama, to his credit, will fight back. But in my own opinion, one formed by watching events these past eight years, the neocon wing of the Republican party is capable of anything. I mean anything, to win.

So even if the polls were even, it will be uphill for Obama against these people.

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#281293 - 09/07/08 01:03 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Dax]
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I turned on Fox News yesterday, and I think it was Hannity outraged because Obama will not release his college transcripts!

Should we be asking for Palin's transcripts from the FIVE colleges she attended to get a BA ? Should we be asking for McCain's Annapolis' transcripts ?
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#281297 - 09/07/08 01:11 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Dax]
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And maybe they will find something he has written that expresses his real beliefs. Which is what people do when they write. Which he understands and has not left much of a paper trail.

I pick McCain and Palin because I think the American people will wake up and realize that with Obama they really don't know what they are getting.

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#281309 - 09/07/08 02:51 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: JOE]
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Originally by: JOE
In my opinion, and only my opinion. I think Sen. Obama is a great orater too. But I think thats all he has to offer.

His campaign is based all about change.


Besides now echoing Obama on many of his original proposals, McCain has managed to highjack both the "we need change" line and rock star status with Palin.
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#281320 - 09/07/08 03:46 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Chocolategenii]
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Originally by: Chocolategenii

I turned on Fox News yesterday, and I think it was Hannity outraged because Obama will not release his college transcripts!

Should we be asking for Palin's transcripts from the FIVE colleges she attended to get a BA ? Should we be asking for McCain's Annapolis' transcripts ?

There's no need for McCain's Annapolis transcript, it's known that he finished about fifth from the bottom of his class. But that won't have anything to do with whether or not he's elected, as the past two elections have shown.

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#281321 - 09/07/08 03:47 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Dax]
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Hannity is still outraged that Obama uses the White Only drinking fountain.

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#281325 - 09/07/08 05:10 PM Re: Predict: McCain or Obama [Re: Dax]
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You know, we were doing pretty well in this thread until Dax decided to engage in a racist attack on Hannity. One, there is NOTHIGN to support that attack. Two, it is nothing more than an effort to paint those who oppose Obama as a racists. Three, its typical of the new direction Fool Moon has taken.
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